How much does it all worth it?
It depends on who wants to buy. There are those who measure me for a billion dollars. Me – that’s all what you see here, and besides our intangible assets, market position, brand and company reputation, under which we operate, and that is my name.
Set the queue willing?
Often I get an offer to buy. But I will not give company. For any money. Not after this it ?? I founded and for many years was building to sell it. Roleski is going to last forever.
Serious commitment
I wrote it in the constitution of the company. This comprehensive book that clarifies the perfect way possible, how the company is to operate. Also, when I have run out. We are the first Polish company that created the document.
And what in this constitution yet you wrote down?
The document imposes my successors certain behaviors, which are not They may depart. You will not be able to, for example, spend more than 5 percent. income on consumption, and if someone wishes to leave the company, it will be able to do it only when convenient from the point of view of the good of the company, ie. when the company will be able to pay in installments receivable calculated on the value of inventory. Other values will not be taken into account.
But you can not answer for what they do descendants. And as someone who will take over inheritance, it will not respond?
I have no intention to depart from these provisions. All those who are part of the company, are also part of the family and must always see to it that the name Roleski been synonymous with good, consistent quality. They must remember that it is not only about quality products but equally to the quality of running a company. This is what I built, steadily expanding and generates profits, which are absolutely sufficient for me, for family, for co-workers. I try to pay reasonable salaries. My job is to create jobs and fairly pay for those who work there. It has to also be in the future.
But the succession must be well prepared. Many Polish entrepreneurs do not know how to do
For me, it was so much easier that resulted from tradition. Entrepreneurs who started in the 80-90 years of the twentieth century, worked in the world of total crisis also affects core business values, then absolute, wild capitalism. Sometimes it is difficult to walk away from those experiences and habits, and to this day I meet those who have a different perspective than I tried to have from the beginning in business. I knew in advance that the company will always be a family. Such a model is more friendly, kind-hearted. In my family always come first talked about workers, współtwórcach success, the company is also cast in its worst moments, secondly about the tasks to complete, and only at the end of the money. It was important to us in the fact that the company is stable, and the staff had a job. It never changed, so summer only reinforce this attitude, and the younger family members receive them.
The family company is also a conflict. Incompatibility about the company’s vision, directions of development. At what point should withdraw founder?
It must be remembered that while the founder is in full force and fully understanding, it always wants to have an impact on your business. Because I will not abandon you believe that will solve some issues faster and more boldly. Only after the death of its founder, when the young generation is the same, he learns to fully manage. The correct solution is continuous cooperation between generations. If I’m fit, that’s why I’m not prompt? And why I should not listen to what I say? I’m learning from them, they’re from me.
Is there a chance that this will improve the image of people who have achieved something business? Still ethos “success story” in Poland does not exist.
The business is largely the legacy of socialism. For many years Poles were told that “prywaciarz” is “enemy of the people”, that is the source of all evil, that it should be destroyed, exterminated. The success aroused suspicion. Szerzono belief that could not be achieved by honest work. It was impossible to defend against this. Polish pre-war intelligence were murdered, and her remains later downgraded. then who had to give us the appropriate formulas? Therefore, the Polish mentality is so much envy. Envy is also alive because of wrongly understood equality, imported to equality in consumption. It does not matter how much this what success has done for others as much help as it sought. And so it will be considered as “this evil”, because it “has more than me.” And how is it he can do, so let’s give you. This is more often Polish mentality.
The problem is particularly noticeable among the forties, fifties. The young generation begins to increased recognition, to look at entrepreneurs who have succeeded. He understands better what is the price of success and is able to respect him, as well as a little emulate. One would like to believe that this will intensify in the future.
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To ask mischievously. And that’s why these young people are leaving because I do not believe that in Poland they manage to earn some extra money?
Yes, it’s very depressing problem. Everyone would like to see development was faster. To carry opportunities for young people who need clear goals and hope that it can achieve them. Meanwhile, instead of hope there is a large gap between what they want and what they could in Poland and the Polish do, and the conditions for action that creates the state. Supposedly democratic, and any such alien and without empathy. Many young people feel that they have the potential to succeed here. There is, however, a social space and emigrated with grief to his native country. But also we meet other phenomena. It is, for example, a group of people, which in comparison to their peers living a few years ago is very a demanding. And I’m not talking about very young people. I see more and more forties, fifties with an attitude of “give”. It surrounds them everywhere prosperity, so too would like to participate. But they have no patience and certainly do not accept the internally old truth that can not ever get everything at once. If young people do not have strong, positive examples and good experiences, they can take that attitude.
The belief that for everything to be “here and now” that the money come easily, only need to have idea?
Yes, often they are convinced of the rightness of such a claim. Not willing to listen about the old days, but so was actually, as we talk about them. Me and my generation drew on patterns of seniors. Our parents were rebuilding the country after the war, always worked hard. And we learned that hard work and toil over the years have created what is now. One would like to make it any more. But objectively, when you look back, but this is something big. The Poles as a nation are very hardworking. The problem is that the world around us is not inclined to to approve diligence. Diligence seen as a principle of life of entire generations.
It’s easy to say that a man who has so many. I’m talking about money.
And it bad that I feel satisfied? We worked on it for three generations, in the same way as the telling. At this point nothing more to be happy I do not need. I have my own world. I’m glad that I live in a small community, away from the business centers. I love living here peacefully conduct their business. It frightens me, for example, specific dynamism of Warsaw …
But in business you need to be dynamic and hard
It is not necessary to Warsaw. Approach annoys me a little that the business conducted from the perspective of Warsaw is better. Many would like to live and do business in the city, which once consisted of a whole nation, rebuilding his extraordinary symbol of courage and adhering to values. I move to Warsaw. And what next? In congested city living harder and harder, and chase and kill competition natural human kindness … I doubt whether a business where there are involved, refers to the Warsaw symbolism. Did continues, for example, the myth of the old Warsaw, which was also the rational model of social entrepreneurship jam. Sometimes confidently and continues, but too much is heard about the Warsaw ill investments, including to “pledge, and attitudes to,” or for ill-considered investments or badly carried out, with a bad board, of selfishness and conflicting decisions
As much capital you do not like?
If you can not like Warsaw? No. I do not like her just this chaotic, nervous and often cyclical atmosphere. Beyond that, even here, where I live, also leads interests. Well, sometimes even better, fairer, because the ties are stronger and easier to find people to feel and understand what drives them. Because we all know here, and it helps eliminate inappropriate behavior. In big cities there are no such ties, the weaker is the mutual control inside environments. It seems that more slowly that allowed such relativize base. That “cunning” it may be considered to be an acceptable method of doing business. That self-esteem will replace professionalism. Such is the general nature of big cities, especially urban youth, in which the focus is enormous interest and which flow down from everywhere, people of different culture. What can you do?
Or the master distance to Warsaw is primarily the result of dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities, offices? You’re looking at it from the perspective of an entrepreneur who fights with the rules?
No doubt. Officials interfere, and if I ran a business in Warsaw, hurt even more. Today, in fact I no longer with them so many problems, because the company is big, so not so easy to tease us. But I am convinced that if they wanted to, he immediately would have done. I’m out of this devastated how difficult today in our country to create a good law and how easily destroy a right good. Long ago, in the formation of the so-called I counseled. Wilczek Act. The one that at the beginning of 1989 years has given freedom to conduct business and freed the creative entrepreneurship of Poles. It was a one-page document. In addition, written in clear and comprehensible language. Today, if he gather all the provisions of this range, it would be a huge book. Bible being able to hide it.
It is so bad?
A few years ago I invented the technology of preparing eggs, which would be free from salmonella. Then I heard that “tycoons do not need”. Because I broke the monopoly on the production of mayonnaise, a “must get me.” And as a result of sending to me you control. Among the entrepreneurs there is a reasoned opinion that officials are throwing roadblocks in. Checking for control … There is no right climate for business, there is no unambiguous decision and stable interpretation of the rules. And the law is sometimes actually pretty bad. Take the labor code. Businessmen say that it is a problem for them. It is a problem for them, but it’s interesting that the Labour Code also acts against workers.
How is it?
There you go, for example. Many Polish workers complain that earns too little. As a business owner I want to give them a chance for a higher salary, but I can not. This is our country does not allow them to earn more … How? Well, let’s work on the weekends. If someone wants to work on Saturday and Sunday, I have to give him for two days off. He knows that as we work on the weekend, it will have to ?? This “sit” at home and did not earn more. So I ask the question: for whom is the labor code?
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But the staff actually low income, labor costs are not high and it is precisely the competitive advantage of Polish companies.
This is propaganda. It was even said that we become “China of Europe”. On this, that in Poland, earned a little, it depends mainly on global corporations.
Corporate culture is not prepared to create jobs based on the work of his own hands. Not created a vocational school, schools teaching profession.
corporate culture created a fashion for school business, trade, and not on turners, bakers, millers, welders. There is no such specialists abroad, so goes back to the Poles, who are very good professionals. Over the years we educated wonderful staff, and the West now takes them to us.
But let us return for a moment to Your business. Competition in the form of cheap labor from Polish has become an opportunity for many companies with Polish capital. They produce employ. They do such. Own brands for supermarkets. You also doing mustard for other brands.
I also do foreign brand, but for those with whom we communicate and for those companies that know that cheap you can not do that. We are doing practically for the whole world, for example. Knorr, Calve, Hellmann’s, Kuner, Amora, Maille itd.Łatwo to speak up when market position gives virtually unrivaled place. And that has to do smaller producer? He goes on to talk about cooperation with the network discount. Produce for discount? In life. I worked with them awhile and I have a very bad experience. I think it high time to make an examination of conscience, together with cost-effectiveness and add up how many discount stores bring losses to our economy and how to inhibit it. Suffice it to recall the role of Aldi and Lidl, which eat up as much as 10 – 15 percent. German GDP. in its sector. Pointed to it once the BBC.
How?
It’s simple. By restrictions, high, almost impossible to meet the requirements of manufacturers. And it is by no means quality. Expectations are such that the manufacturer can not sell the item for a decent money, so it can not pay more employees, sometimes he goes bankrupt. I hope that Poland is ripe finally realize that the famous 3xC or price Miracles does not make sense, and that someday pass fascination with “magic” shopping at a discount. Anyone who has even an elementary knowledge of economics ?? must think about what he is made of what is on the shelves of one kind or another discount store. No coincidence that some discounters are named voracious insects or insect predators.
Working with a global network is still a chance of development. Someone wants to receive from the manufacturer gigantic quantities
In fact, many manufacturers believe that interest in their company through the commercial network is a godsend. They are overwhelmed by euphoria when they hear what quantities the network will receive from them, how will fall plant-wide costs. Every year, the manufacturer goes to talk to the network, and that he cut the margin by a few percent and so for several years, until goes bankrupt.
Foreign manufacturers have long understood it and it is increasingly difficult for the networks to harvest their stem markets. That’s why so eager to enter the Polish, because they know that with us they can still order everything for next to nothing. But fortunately it ends. The question is, where to go next. To Ukraine?
Lord Mark, what do you think contributed to that Roleski is now so strong?
The stubbornness of purpose. When I was young, with such an iron stubbornness in the newspapers “Bolshevik”. Consistency. Putting on development. But above all that we are a family company that does not push up the stock market, do not we race. We think long term, and not in terms of quick profits. Not like in corporations, where the focus is on how to draw the best score at the end of the year to CEO gets a hefty bonus. It is interesting that for the fact that we are a family value us even more abroad than in Poland.
In the United States every student who wants to have an MBA, you must know the specifics of running a family business. It shows how Americans appreciate such a formula the company and its appropriate way of doing. For the family business is very important social responsibility. Do not like it understand corporations. For them, it’s just an image-slogan. For us the awareness that each family business work ?? in the local community, gives ?? the work of “their”, supporting ?? region. So we are looking for local suppliers, we buy from Polish suppliers. Polishness company with which we work, it is very important to us.
The family company is also greater flexibility …
The strength of the survival of family businesses is much higher than corporations. This stems largely from the management and the motivation, determination and sometimes even family owners. For what is a corporation? This creature without an owner, the fuzzy decision-making and responsibility. It’s hundreds of e-mails to take one, even a simple decision. In the debate on the concept of conducting business between the corporate model and the family, I am, I know, a bit biased. But no one can deny that corporations have a profession of faith that matters is profit, here and now. That they build a global model of rapacious consumption contrary to the need for sustainable development. That they can not respect the limitations that result from tradition, culture and adopted on a piece of land customs. And all of this poorly respect the man and his work, prefer to buy well-educated, than to educate him, and a certain level in the hierarchy, they produce their own incubators in addition idleness most frightening, however, is that whenever state corporation on the brink of bankruptcy, will be a government that it will save them. Not what in the case of a family business.
How is it?
Corporations budgetary means get virtually for free and mostly camouflaged. Sometimes the public pretends to know what are the cost of obtaining them, or how much money they spend on lobbying. One such company admitted recently that he spends up to 2 million dollars for this “noble” purpose. And these are only the money to which they admitted. Small local entrepreneurs do not have a chance with them.
Thank you for talking
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