MAREK Chądzyński: What tools have already resort to increase tax revenues?
WIESŁAW JASIŃSKI: First of all, we strongly mobilized people in the tax administration. For eight months of my office I realized that this is the most important. It’s people are to carry out this plan, you’re talking about.
I like them you mobilize? Using the stick or the carrot?
Employees of tax administration must feel that they are doing something really important. This was the case. The preparation of the fuel pack. The level of commitment of those who occupied it, was really high.
I ask otherwise. What it is now important tool in improving the collection: a new law or changes in the operation of the services tax?
Creating a law is certainly important, but the effects of this will see for some time. While the reorganization of the service brings consequences now.
What?
The results of tax inspections after the first months of this year are much better than in the same period of 2015. I’m not talking about the findings of which do not show only the actual receipts to the budget and retained VAT reimbursement. Payments, which are the result of decisions, increased by 40 percent. On the other hand, stopped the payment of undue VAT, an increase of nearly 100 percent. Soon we will have the data for the first two quarters of this year, and the trend should be maintained.
Effective provision introductory clause to circumvent the law, we have a package of fuel, moved unified control file, which is providing financial data to serve the taxpayer. What will be the most powerful weapon of the tax office in the struggle for more influence?
Single control file will be the primary tool used by the fiscal control. It is needless to say emphatically. Are employees of fiscal control and tax administration created this instrument from scratch. At the moment, we are at the stage of creating a tool for typing control. Of course, if this applies to large companies. And why do not I make a declaration that already this year the single control file will clear effect on increasing budget revenues. But it is a starting point for further action. If the well is to test the large companies, it is easy for us to introduce another solution, eg. In the VAT records, also for small and medium-sized enterprises. The experience gained will certainly also in the works on the central register of invoices.
What about the clause circumvent the law? It would seem that she will be the most effective way to improve the collection.
Also it. Potentially the most money can be obtained through solutions on the fuel industry.
So this package of fuel is the most important?
This only one of the elements. We’re working on the next, eg. The close monitoring of transport fuel in the country. For now nothing more I can say.
How much you get from the seal trade in fuels?
Ultimately 10 billion zł per year.
You can sense a certain impatience in the statements of some politicians about the effects of the work on the improvement of tax collection. Rightly?
I understand it perfectly, and I feel the impatience every day. Therefore, every day we are working on it. The most important is the human factor. The services tax and customs works 65 thousand. people. They must have full confidence that their ultimate goal is to fight for the improvement of budget revenues. Results for the first half show that this is already happening. Although it was a specific period, because the tax administration employees were worried about their future in connection with plans to create a National Fiscal Administration. Despite this, we managed to reach the subordinates of the explanation, as in previous years worked wrong and how to change it.
I can be so easily achieved without increasing wages ?
Also, I think it’s one of the lowest-paid services. A best seen in the example of tax intelligence. Detective tax earns much less than the operations officer in the police.
Interview tax work optimally?
It is difficult to measure the effectiveness activities of tax intelligence, eg. the size of the budget revenues. Because it is difficult to tell how much participation as a result of fiscal control is the interview. While I have no problem with the assessment of the functioning of the interview. According to me for many years maintained a dummy service.
That interview is now ineffective.
And there are few reasons. First: this service very small. It has about 300 employees across the country. In each province it operates from 10 to more than a dozen people. Once, when I worked in the police, we created departments to fight corruption in the provincial police headquarters. More than a dozen people in this department are employed at the beginning, when only signaled that the police is the willingness to solve the problem of corruption. Meanwhile, in an interview with the tax is that all the time, from the moment when this service. What can you do in 10 people in the region? Is it possible to fight effectively against organized crime treasury, dealings with eg. The creation of a chain of fictitious companies and producing fictitious invoices? No, it is not efficient, and in such a form can not continue to function. The new National Fiscal Administration department to combat crime duty is to be strong and this is the moment when the interview the tax will have to be reformed.
Why do we even interviewed the tax? The police could not catch tax cheaters?
Cooperation treasury system with other services in this area is difficult. Neither the police nor the CBA or other services do not have access to the secret duty. There is no exchange of such data between departments. Cooperation, yes, there is, but focuses on training and joint operations during implementation.
Interview tax we need because of the scope of information it can obtain. Regular tax controller uses a database of tax administration. But secondly, and probably a better source of information is confidential and obtained also in the framework of operational control – that is, eg. Through the use of wiretaps. But how such data can provide 300 people, and in fact even less, because not everyone is working on the front line. Paradoxes is more. For example, only half the provinces operate group realization of tax intelligence. It employees with weapons, equipment, equipment for special groups, who – speaking jargon – deal with the transformation of the material in the operating process. So for example. Make arrests or other activities at the crime scene.
In that case, how many officers should have interviewed the tax to work well?
It’s hard to say, because only decisions are made as to the final form of the National Fiscal Administration. Certainly division dealing with crime prevention duty will be clearly strengthened and the creation of a tax on the basis of the interview. And it is because of such powers as the interview is not any other service duty or duty.
What is the power?
interview may monitor or operational control. But can not make special operations, that is, eg. Work undercover or use provocation. It can not and will not be able to.
Or should it expand?
When we introduced the National Administration of Tax, our intention was not to increase the powers of the administration. The only additional competence will expand the catalog of offenses in which the fight against the new administration will be able to deal with. Otherwise it will look like the fight against corruption in the camera’s tax – because this interview is also still engaged. Today, however, can chase the official who takes bribes. But in the new structure will be pursued also whoever gives you.
How generally has a look diagram of the new service?
The creation of single customs-duty service. Will it work officers. Some of them will be responsible for checks – this is today’s treasury inspectors. Part will perform operations intelligence. There will be a strong group of execution. This last will be relatively easy to arrange. Group of realization arise on the basis of today’s intelligence Revenue and Customs Service.
Does this will require additional spending from the budget?
We are moving in this pool plan, which today is in the tax administration, fiscal and customs. The biggest problem is to recruit people to the departments to combat crime. To date, the tax intelligence – and this is another of his flaw – went were officers of other services, eg. From the police. Often they have pension rights, good craftsmen who know the operational work – but not necessarily the highest level of commitment. This is not the optimal way of recruitment to tax intelligence. It must be a service for people who want to deal with the most dangerous at the moment crime. The assumption is that we will look for them in the current tax administration. They work in the people, which can easily retrain the spies. So they do besides other services. Besides, we intend to open up to outsiders, we will in a sense, compete with the police and other services for the staff. We recruit the same way as with them.
Recruitment is one thing, and what equipment these officers? I think it is impossible to avoid additional costs.
If we combine forces interview with the Customs Service, it will not be a problem. Just this question I was not afraid. The bigger challenge will be recruiting. We will have people learn methods of intelligence work.
What kind of industry interview dealt with so far the most?
fuel . If you already use operational control, it is against the serious crime groups, the so-called. fuel mafia.
In the future operational control will be used more often?
In the future, also the operational control will go only for the most serious crimes, when other methods fail. We do not intend to use it en masse.
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