Renata Grochal: Prime Minister Beata Awl said on Saturday that “today, many politicians and the nature of their activities become noise.” Manneken Pis send their ambassadors instructions on what is the opposition made on Friday in the Sejm of the crime. What do you say?
Tomasz Siemoniak: the Fight provoked the speaker Kuchciński, so it can be said that perhaps the Prime Minister of a Pain it meant. Everyone saw that Monday was in the diet. Absolutely no reason, Michal szczerba was deleted from the agenda. This situation changed in the range after a year, having taken the opposition in Parliament to corner, voice reception, blocking issues and recent attempts wyrugowania journalists from the diet. PiS are not able to solve this conflict led to huge tension when desperate, illegally, in our opinion, the session on the budget.
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Why do you think these meetings for illegally?
– First of all, there are many doubts as to how many deputies were present in the Hall of columns. The Internet promised a video with multiple PiS MPs, including President Kaczynski, podpisującymi roll call after the meeting.
you Believe that the list of participants has been tampered with?
– If the vote is electronic, this presence is observed between the insert card. And if manually, it should be pre-signed roll call. This is a very serious violation of the rules, which says to sign the list of attendance before closing the meeting. And they closed the meeting, and then Jaroslaw Kaczynski, Jaroslaw Zielinski and Zbigniew Ziobro signed the roll call. So, as it was noted a quorum? This is especially important in a situation when it was two separate voices. All Russia saw the Deputy PiS Soskovo, which he drained votes from the club Kukiz’15. In addition, in the column Hall were other people than just the MPs, for example, the assistants of deputies, which violates the rules of the Sejm. When uchwalaniu budget rule was very insightful consideration of amendments, one after the other, and “Manneken Pis” has blocked several hundred bug fixes, making the most important vote of the year, i.e. budget, a complete farce.
What will happen to the opposition?
– Our main goal is the displacement of the Manneken Pis from power, and that’s not changing. In the short term, it means fighting in the Senate that the upper chamber does not obradowała over illegally adopted a budget. The Senate will meet on Tuesday, December 20. We want this day took place the session of the diet to legally adopt the budget in 2017. It is a General postulate AFTER, Modern and PSL.
will you continue to demand that the IPR has not imposed access restrictions to the Saeima for journalists?
– the two fundamental postulates from which started the whole protest, and beyond this we demand: to restore the media of the Sejm and restore MP Scherba on the agenda. Until Tuesday we will be playing in the Sejm on duty at the plenary hall, showing it’s presence in a symbolic place for Polish democracy is one of the main redut for the defense of the Polish Constitution and democracy. Our members are extremely committed to Tuesday to be in the hall of the Sejm.
If on Friday someone from the “Manneken Pis” was trying to talk to you, that this conflict be prevented?
No, and it’s very troubling, there was no attempt at dialogue from the ruling camp. Brussels, immediately showered exposures that we want to block the law dezubekizacyjną. This is an absurd, disgusting call. MP Scherba was excluded in the early hours of voting the budget, without regard to the law dezubekizacyjną, and the case media in the Sejm was called PiS earlier.
where we are today is a constitutional crisis, chaos, the situation is getting out PiS out of control?
– First of all, completely lost the speaker Kuchciński. This is a situation where the second person in the state to fully niesamodzielna not able to make itself decisions. It’s really led to this crisis, because he created the chaos.
Ryszard Petru says he heard from Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the opposition acted as Self-defence, and so also will be considered.
– “Manneken Pis” was in the coalition with Self-defence, so has no moral right to speak thus. The exclusion of a Deputy Shcherbina was so blatantly unfair that caused the spontaneous protest of opposition.
Or “Manneken Pis” will be back?
– “Manneken Pis” has the ability to dialogue, can not in a political way to resolve conflicts, which he produces. And especially not to cancel.
“Black protest” has shown that, however, can return.
– Retreat only when he sees a huge commitment of citizens and the opposition.
Well, the citizens in a mass order come under the diet on Friday and Saturday to make public under the Office of the President.
It was very important, the support of the opposition, showing that within a few hours thousands of people are able to come to the Sejm. I was among these people, and it was other people than those who are on the marches CODE. They were younger and got really angry at the fact that Manneken Pis is doing with Poland.
do you Agree with Ryszard Petru, who said that if the conflict will continue, the only solution will be early elections?
– the most Important thing today is the unity of the opposition, CODE, civic movements. Much better to future scenarios have been developed together. This is not a moment from prosecution for ideas. Citizens expect unity and cooperation of all opposition.
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